Webinar 2014 05

Volunteering Facilitator: Xavier de Pedro



Thursday, May 15, 2014 at 19:00:00 UTC time (click for time zone in your city)


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1st hour quick news

  • Tiki 13 release update
  • Mail Queue in 12.x fixed (yay!)
  • Some demos of other new features in Tiki 13: Survey enhancement, Comment mail in, notifications, Stored Searches
  • TikiFestSysadmin 2014-08 status update

Second hour, longer topics

  • Upgrade Wizard
    • Basic design and implementation will be introduced, and brainstorming + discussion can be held on which features are the most suitable to be added in the screens shown to novice tiki admins upgrading their Tiki X to Tiki Y.
  • Tiki 13 longer discussion of topics not covered in the 1st hour if needed

Confirmed people willing to attend

  • xavi
  • luci
  • nelson
  • jonny B
  • Jyhem
  • fmg

add you name here

Chat log

Xavi (xavi): Polom...
Nelson (koth): polom
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Hi guys !
Nelson (koth): hello
sylvie: hello guys
sylvie: no micro - just spying ;-)
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): No microphone Sylvie ?
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): ok
sylvie: I am in a public room - can not really speak - and meeting rooms are busy
Xavi (xavi): :-)
sylvie: :-)
gezza: hiAll
Xavi (xavi): hi gezza
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): silence is underrated :)
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): /me applauds Xavi
luciash d' being (luci): polom
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Hi Luci
Frank Guthausen (fmg): Hello.
luciash d' being (luci): tested the release "dry run" today with 12.1.1 but that is not accepted so it will be 12.2 as only accepted format is X.Y
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Joël is in my place and hears us
Nelson (koth): ok, xavi was thinking 12.2 is better anyway
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): yay :)
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): If 12.1 is broken, we should do 12.2
luciash d' being (luci): Frank ?
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Yes, I saw the emails :-(
Frank Guthausen (fmg): luci?
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): It was just an agreement on the naming of the version
luciash d' being (luci): u wrote that on the webinar page
Frank Guthausen (fmg): I wrote about TikiFest
luciash d' being (luci): ah, sorry, right :)
Xavi (xavi): Current topic: "Some demos of other new features in Tiki13"
Guest: bsfez: Hi all
luciash d' being (luci): it was Nelson
Guest: bsfez: tks
luciash d' being (luci): hi Bernard
Xavi (xavi): hi Bernard
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Hi Bernard
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): /me so happy Tiki is not in java (would not be among us if it was) :)
Frank Guthausen (fmg): next?
Xavi (xavi): :-)
luciash d' being (luci): Java == headache
Xavi (xavi): I agree
Guest: bsfez: No backup is bad !
Guest: bsfez: NICE ! moving questions was a pain !
luciash d' being (luci): looks much more friendly
luciash d' being (luci): great
luciash d' being (luci): could be option to save "anonymous" instead of the username ?
luciash d' being (luci): or empty string
Guest: bsfez: We had already the issue with "Terms and Conditions; Age". Would be nice to have a switch. And if not anonymous just said it.
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): I think one of Xavi's point is to display whether the survey is anonymous to the person filling it
luciash d' being (luci): That too, of course.
Xavi (xavi): yes, jyhem, that's the point
Xavi (xavi): and make the option (which might be missing) to make the survey not record users choices
Xavi (xavi): somehow
luciash d' being (luci): :D
luciash d' being (luci): this is awesome
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Very nice
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Does it only work when you have notifications (which you said would appear in Tiki14) ?
luciash d' being (luci): it seems to work in trunk == Tiki 13, no ?
luciash d' being (luci): or is it custom Tiki dev version ?
luciash d' being (luci): never work as root ;-)
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): poll_surveys_textarea_hidetoolbar is a shared pref - bad! :)
luciash d' being (luci): oh, magic ! how did you do that ? ... :)
gezza: nice
Xavi (xavi): yes, sounds nice
Guest: bsfez: Remind me something :)
luciash d' being (luci): Did anybody say Google+ ? :)
luciash d' being (luci): blogs ?
luciash d' being (luci): very nice
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): How many replies can you do ??? Unlimited ?
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): About spammers.
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): brb
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): If they get one correct email for mail-in, they can do whatever they like, correct ?
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Yes, it's hard to find but once you get ONE, you win, correct ?
Nelson (koth): I think at the moment it might be, will need to ask LP
Guest: bsfez: I'm sorry... I have to go. (23h00)
Guest: bsfez: goodbye all
luciash d' being (luci): can you lower your mic volume a bit gezza ?
Xavi (xavi): g'bye
Xavi (xavi): and jyhem, you need to raise the volume of your mic
luciash d' being (luci): second hour :)
gezza: i've lowered the mic :)
Frank Guthausen (fmg): TikiFest!
Frank Guthausen (fmg): one more topic 1st hour
Xavi (xavi): Wizards -> Upgrade Wizard
luciash d' being (luci): Frank: ahh, we missed that one it seems :)
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Like the release pages, only interactive? I love the idea :-)
luciash d' being (luci): can u hold on after this wizard topic ?
Frank Guthausen (fmg): I guess yes
Nelson (koth): sorry Frank
Nelson (koth): I had in my head the wiki page from earlier, it is an importnat tpoic the Sysadmin Tikifest
Nelson (koth): let xavi finish and we can cover that
Xavi (xavi): http://dev.tiki.org/Upgrade+Wizard
gezza: isnt gravatar removed now?
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): WordPress bought it i think :(
luciash d' being (luci): why is somewhere question icon and somewhere "i" icon ?
Nelson (koth): I hadn't noticed it before lol
luciash d' being (luci): maybe those "?" have link to doc page and "i" are just quick info without link ?
gezza: i is when it is only a popup, questionmark also point to a page on doc.tiki.org
luciash d' being (luci): ok
gezza: but it should be same
Nelson (koth): should be easy to change to the same if it works like that
Nelson (koth): change field types is dangerous for people who don't understand
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): change field types is dangerous and advanced
Nelson (koth): should we be advertising kaltura less?
luciash d' being (luci): but i welcome it is back
gezza: maybe only basic prefs should appear here
luciash d' being (luci): instead of going to MySQL Adminer
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): there's vimeo tracker fields too (better)
Nelson (koth): I think maybe we can all go through and discuss on a wiki page
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): yy
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): http://dev.tiki.org/Upgrade+Wizard
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): I appreciate to know about change field type is back! Changing them in phpmyadmin is a pain
Nelson (koth): well, I suppose it is fine that we can have advanced features here as well, there is a big exclamation mark next to the dangerous/complicated ones.
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Does "Tiki Connect" mean anithing to english speakers ? What about "Tiki community feedback" ?
Frank Guthausen (fmg): Jean-Marc: why phpmyadmin? There're six commandline consoles given to you ;-)
luciash d' being (luci): Can we please for the larger icons use some of the https://themes.tiki.org/Icon+Fonts for example http://www.webhostinghub.com/glyphs/ ??? To make it look more consistent ? For small icons we are already replacing with glyphicons
Frank Guthausen (fmg): dump database, edit it with cat, sed, head, tail... and restore the database
luciash d' being (luci): All the large ones
luciash d' being (luci): yes
Xavi (xavi): Life? or Live?
luciash d' being (luci): Life
luciash d' being (luci): It was to collect stats I thought how many people use Tiki
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Life is like "stored query". It's what WE want to do with it, not what it means to the person who sees the checkbox
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Let them create a show instance :)
luciash d' being (luci): Actually button or icon to send a bug report directly from the page where the bug occured would be useful (with screenshot using jCapture perhaps ?)
luciash d' being (luci): Like and Dislike ? :)
luciash d' being (luci): It does not send any sensitive data so far except the contact info right ?
luciash d' being (luci): And where who can review these data ?
Xavi (xavi): Admin assistance?
Xavi (xavi): instead of Usability
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Well, these people who dowload Tiki and try to use it: users :)
luciash d' being (luci): No idea
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): They are also useful for people who upgrade from LTS to LTS. Most of them do not follow our mailing lists
Xavi (xavi): "TikiFestSysadmin 2014-08 status update"
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): http://tiki.org/TikiFestDevOps
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): right?
Nelson (koth): yes
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): I don't take plane probably
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): I probably live closer than some other german people :-)
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): Torsten was talking about TikiCamp II
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Even one month is good enough for me.
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): I'm still waiting to find out about other summer work travel, so i'm 50/50 (maybe less)
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): I'm close to 100%, whichever precise place.
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Just like TikiFestCEST :)
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Will they kick us out at 18:00 ?
luciash d' being (luci): Yes. I will update the wiki page soon about it.
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Apparently, technical issues are easier than administrative issues :-)
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley): :)
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Thanks, sounds good so far
luciash d' being (luci): When is the T13 branching - me releasing 12.2 then ?
sylvie: well done - thank you
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): Thanks Xavi
luciash d' being (luci): yes, I can
Xavi (xavi): thks (it was my first webinar as facilitator)
luciash d' being (luci): tomorrow or Monday, does not matter
Xavi (xavi): +1 for 12.2. on Monday
luciash d' being (luci): ok, lets do it on Monday
luciash d' being (luci): good job Xavi :)
luciash d' being (luci): I wondered why it is disabled actually :-p
luciash d' being (luci): You can put it on doc site Xavi, jonny will do proper fix ;-)
Nelson (koth): ok, tks xavi
Nelson (koth): tks everyone else too
sylvie: :-)
sylvie: bye guys
Frank Guthausen (fmg): bye all
gezza: bye
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem): bye

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